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Old 04-29-2015, 11:28 AM
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Question New and what to do?

Hello all, my first post here.

I am looking for advice on tackle and lure selection for my area. I live a few steps from the Metedeconk River and have direct access via a community beach with fishing dock, 2 miles from the Mantaloking Bridge, and 3 miles from the ocean.

I won't be fishing from a boat - shore only.

I've never fished before in my life, but had a crazy dream one night of catching fish to eat from the beach - yeah, a bit out of nowhere, but I live near all this water and fishing population, I thought it would be good to try and I'd prefer to catch my own fish than eat out of a restaurant or from the grocery store.

So, my dream turned reel life when I scored a deal on a Penn Battle II 8000 combo at Dick's (10' graphite rod, 6oz, Med-Fast Action, Heavy Power) for $112.33 out the door.

I then got the spool wound with 400yd of 20# mono at West Marine.

I've been reading, watching videos, talking to friends, but am still feeling a bit lost. I did go out a week ago with a work friend in 30-40mph winds to Brick beach III to practice casting with a loaned small black swivel clip for the end of my line and a 2oz diamond lure with green tube and hook. I didn't hook myself, break anything, or catch anything. I focused on a smooth cast.

I've grown up by the water and am a diver, so reading the beach and water is somewhat natural to me. However, I have very little knowledge of the hierarchy of bait and predatory fish along with the interplay with water conditions, weather conditions and the other less scientific characteristics (like good 'ole experience) when it comes to selecting what goes on the end of the line.

I looked through the Striper 101 list of lures and scored a deal on a Bomber A-Salt in purple/black in good used condition on eBay for $0.14 - I had eBay bucks to blow, so I went for it.

I went to Dick's yesterday to pick up 4-5 lures and use a $10-off $50 coupon that expires at the end of the month, but came up $3 short and had to bail on the purchase - I was also running late for another appointment. Nonetheless, in thinking about what I was picking up, there wasn't any rythme or reason other than going by the name of the lure. I'm glad I didn't buy anything because it does seem foolish to spend $40+ on stuff you have no idea if it is the right stuff for the area, the right weight, color, or do I have the rest of the tackle needed to make it work, etc.

My initial target fish is a Striper - I'd like a fish that is good to eat - so, fluke/flounder is on the table too, but I think it probably makes sense to focus on one species first before I go crazy buying stuff to cater to each.

I'm looking for guidance on where to start and literally not spend a fortune in lures for every conceivable condition. I'm going to be a fair weather, day time to early evening fisherman on the river, bay and beach.

I'm not against bait - I bought a Bass Hi/Lo rig, 3oz, 4oz and 5oz pyrimid sinkers and a 3oz diamond with green tube/hook from Pell's last weekend as per the kid's recommendation there - though he did show me nearly a dozen lures and my head nearly exploded from the variety :\

Other than what I've bought so far, I have some free Eagle Claw 8/0 hooks from the NJ Catch & Release program, and don't have anything else tackle-wise, or dedicated fishing tool-wise.

Bait shops that are nearly within walking distance: Pell's and Jersey Coast Bait & Tackle. A few minutes farther West Marine, Dick's

So, hello to everyone :)
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Old 04-29-2015, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: New, Overwhelmed by choices

Welcome!
Sounds like a pretty good start. Don't let your head explode! Don't be afraid to build up a few lures. Possibly glean some info from other fishermen in your area. In my experience, most guys out there are pretty nice, and love to talk about fishing. They'll probably show your their favorite lure or talk about the method that works best for them.
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:53 AM
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Hi Dan, and welcome to the addiction!

I think the first thing that I would recommend is that you spend some time reading through the great articles in the "View From The Beach" forum section. There are some really great write-ups there that will answer a lot of the questions you've posed, plus answers to a lot of questions that you didn't know you needed to ask yet.

Since your primary question in this thread is about lure choice, start with this article: The 2x2 Matrix, A Simplified Approach To Choosing Your Arsenal
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:05 AM
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Jake, thank you for the info.

I purchased a bunch of lures before reading your references, but hopefully I'm not too far off base. I used the recommended lure lists from the Stripers 101 thread and an article, "The 25 Greatest Striper Lures of All Time".

Here is what I came away with, but may adjust after reading the 2x2 Matrix article.
  • Bomber A-Salt Purple/Black
  • Acme Kastmasters 3oz
  • Atom Striper Swiper
  • Tsunami 6" Bunker pattern shad
  • Yo-Zuri Mag Darter(F)
  • Andrus 2oz Jetty Caster
  • 3oz diamond lead eel green tube

I also bought an Eagle Claw Laser Striped Bass Fish Finder with 6/0 Octo hook, 42" leader to be an alternate to the Hi/Low rig I bought at Pell's. I'm not adverse to tying my own stuff, but wasn't 100% sure of what clips, hooks, etc. to buy, so I felt that going with the "striper" pre-made ones would help me get the ball rolling.

I'm hopeful that one or more of these lures will bag me a keeper. I was thinking of starting on the river with the Jetty Caster and Tsunami 6" shad and see what happens. Then maybe try them out in the ocean along with the others.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:24 AM
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That selection is a good start and will get you into all sections of the water column from top water to deep, though unless you're fishing from a boat or in very fast moving water I don't know when you'd use the 3oz diamond lead. Keeping it from getting snagged on the bottom when fishing from shore would be a real chore.
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Old 05-07-2015, 12:15 PM
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Maybe I can trade the diamond eel lure for some bait rigs/tackle.

Am going fishing tonight with a friend on my community beach's dock on the Metedeconk.
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Old 05-29-2015, 01:41 PM
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Hi steel, welcome to the site. I have never fished Jersey (but would like to) but there are a few universal truths in my opinion:

1. bait is always better than lures in the salt, especially for a new comer. also cheaper. get a second smaller cheap pole with small hooks and use it to try and catch bait. fallback is frozen squid.
2. don't concentrate on any particular kind of fish at first, try and catch any fish.
3. if you are fishing from a pier, consider how you lift a big one up.
4. 2 most essential tools: needle nose pliers (from your toolbox) to remove hooks, and a cheap pair of scissors to cut line.
5. bring a 5 gallon bucket, and beer.

Good luck!
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Old 08-20-2015, 11:55 AM
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Hi steel I know this is a very late reply to your post but I just joined
the site and I am a N.J. guy also. I do a lot of surf fishing on L.B.I.
because it is very close to home for me. I have been surf fishing for
about 7 or 8 years now after moving down the shore.
I was a mainly a fresh water guy before that. The best advice I
ever got about surf fishing was just get out there and do it.
Ask a lot of questions. It is much easier to start out learning the
ropes with bait. Once you start lure fishing it can be overwhelming for sure.
The very first time you hook up you will be addicted for life.
During the winter months go to some shows and flea markets.
Think about joining a club. I joined two clubs when I was still new to it
and some guys (not all ) will be happy to help and give you advice.
Best of luck to you and any time you want to fish shoot me pm
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Old 08-20-2015, 12:46 PM
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jettydog,

Thanks for the insight. My biggest issue as of late has been finding the time to get to the water. I've been quite busy, so my fishing has been on hold.

A friend at work is loaning me a Shakespeare 6' pole and a Penn 105 Beachmaster (that I restored) for a practice conventional reel for bait casting. I put 350 yards of 20# mono and a Eagle Claw fish-finder rig on it.

I'll keep you in mind for when I head out. I may try fishing on the Metedeconk since it's at the end of my street again. I went out one night on the pier at my community beach and had two fish trail my lures, but no bites.
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