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Old 04-27-2009, 02:55 PM
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Default Anyone else see this interesting tidbit??? The catch in 2008 was the lowest since 1996

Got this email the other day from Stripers Forever. I'm sure most of you have already seen it, but for those who haven't, take a look.
Stripers Forever Members – we recently received the latest figures for the National Marine Fishery Service, Marine Recreational Fishing Survey - MRFS. From their website we were able to get the data for the recreational catch of striped bass from 1995 through 2008. The number of fish caught by recreational anglers peaked in 2006. This includes both harvested and live release. Since that time it has dropped by approximately 50%. The catch in 2008 was the lowest since 1996. This trend is in line with the results of our annual fishing survey in the past few years.


These statistics may well be harbingers of real danger for striped bass First and most important, fishing may simply continue to go downhill and the stock will collapse. It could happen, and this would have disastrous consequences for the 3,000,000 plus recreational anglers who avidly pursue striped bass. In addition, the livelihoods of thousands of guides and various other recreational fishing industry workers will be at stake. The commercially-oriented fishery managers can maneuver the commercial fishermen into a much bigger share of the fishery than they’ve had historically, as they have with the fluke fishery; essentially this will choke off recreational fishing opportunities and impact participation in the sport of recreational fishing.


There is only one answer. Striped bass must be made a game fish and managed for the more socially and economically valuable recreational fishery.


To see the table and graph that we have created with the MRFS data, follow this LINK to the SF website.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:05 PM
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I received that too. Interesting read.
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:38 PM
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Hey buddy I'm not claiming to be any expert on stripers but I was reading an article on stripers last month from whoever does these surveys on how many stripers are out there. They said that we did peak in 2006 and that we were on the down side but not by much. They said stripers are stronger than they ever been. So I dont know who wrote that but I would have to see hard evidence. This article was pretty indepth, I don't know what the magazine was. I bought it at the airport, but they went on to talk about how the stripers were almost going extinct in the 80's and that there is more stripers out there then ever before.
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:42 PM
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I dont understand why there is a slot fish if there on a down slide. Is this like survival of the fittest and the most dominant breed. I don't understand the reason behind the slot fish
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:44 PM
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I saw that report as well. Though I don't have any scientific study to back it I would agree with the conclusions for the most part. I guide in NH and in our waters catches of "slot" sized fish are definitely down in the last few years. The bottom line is that the commercial boys will devestate the fishery if present regulations persist. Stripers need to be made a game fish.
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Old 04-30-2009, 09:31 PM
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Everything you need to know can be found here.
http://www.asmfc.org/

There are dozens of threads discussing the matter. The yoy (year of young) biomass has been on the decline.
It has been postulated by fishermen other than scientists that we may be culling out the larger fish by protecting the smaller ones.
This is an ongoing debate - and there is anectdotal evidence that stripers are on the decline but they may very well be following the bait offshore and out of the 3 mile fishable range.
Maine had a terrible year last year. Ask a Maine fishermen if they are on the decline and he will tell you yes. Ask a cape cod canal fisherman and he will tell you last year was one of the best in over 40 years.
Ask the jersey shore surfcasters and they will tell you one freekin storm late in the fall and the seasons over. One things for sure. For surfcasters and some of the hudson fishermen the last few years pretty much sucked.
The total fish amount considered a banner recovery is somewhere between 40 and 60 million striped bass.
300 million people? Everyone keeps a keeper. The fish are extinct in a day.
Commercial bycatch - poachers - lousy catch and release techniques - and a few more poor year of young spawns and we will be fishing bluefish in 10 years.
We havent had a stock status since 2006 from the ASMFC.



Primary Management Measures:
The commercial fishery is controlled through state-by-state quotas (for coastal and bay fisheries), minimum
size limits, and seasons. The recreational fishery is managed through bag and size limits.



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2008 Year of young

The Large Breeders
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:22 PM
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i know back in the 80's you couldnt find a striper near the cape cod canal , we use to have a house in sandwich and all we use to catch was blue fish and flounder , now flounder is getting more scarce and plenty of stripers around tho...
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:52 PM
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We have a great down turn on the amount of menhaden in the Chesapeake Bay. When there is no food the fish will not be there. Simple as that. Menhaden is being pillaged by the menhaden industry. They need to be stopped but I doubt it will happen until the situation is in a disaster mode. Government is slow to respond, way to slow.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:04 AM
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It's not rocket science. For any of us who have been doing this, hard for years, we know the difference. I don't need to be affirmed by statistics and articles to know the the bass pop. is hurting.
I don't agree with the peak year though, 2006. Where I fish, I would say it was more like '04 or even 05'. But talk is cheap, action on preserving is the key. There are too many out there, and not us, that don't give a hoot about #'s and low stocks. And even if one told them, they still wouldn't give a darn!
3,000,000 striped bass anglers, and how many keep bass every time out? That's the problem as well. As much as i hate to say, but are we looking at a closed fishery for the future? I hope not, but is that what it's going to take to keep them in the long run. I surely do not want to lose the ones I love.
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I finished an article for Nor'east Saltwater, about the current state of striped bass stocks. It should be published this month or the next. If you spend some time looking at not just the biomass levels, but also the YOY index from year to year, you will be able to come to your own informed decision in short order.

These fish are headed for trouble again, and Coast-wide Game Fish status is the most important step to ensuring their continued viability.

All you have to do is click around this site and you can see the damage done by just a handful of poachers.

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Old 05-06-2009, 08:17 PM
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We just got tru fighting our striper billAB1253 which would have eradicated all stripers on the west coast..I'm happy to say it was reworded at the last minute .The out pouring of groups against it was tremendous. Due partly to letters from the east coast.Now we are starting for our east coast friends& their fishery..I have sent some emails to rep in mass..Iv'e just posted your Gamefish billH796 & what its about. Gotta find out a little more as to who letters go to..I'll be writing & hopefully most of our group...You're not alone in this fight..We found out the only way is joining groups into a combined idea.. I Write each day till its over..God theres a lot of REPs...Jim
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Being a newbie to striper fishing I had no idea the stocks were so damaged. I would also hate to see livelihoods taken away from commercial fishermen but we have to take steps to preserve the stock. I will definitely release everything I catch...if I catch anything.

One of my main reasons to get back into fishing....besides my love for it...is to teach my kids the joy of fishing and I would hate for any future generation of kids to not be able to enjoy the thrill of fishing for stripers

If any one knows of who we can contact by letter or email then please post it so I can make my voice heard

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I am not sure what year conn fish limits for commercal fishing was lowered, I think it was for five years and in newhampshire a few years later I was boating all sorts of stipers. The powers to be thought the fish limits could be reinstated to the original limits, and the fishing seemed to slow down as time went by. That was something I observed first hand, however having said that thier was some thought that thier was an abundant amount of stripers out thier eating all the herring which accounted for the slow showing of keeper stripers and the slimmer schoolies. Thier also was something about loads of fish being caught for cat food. What ever the reason the fishing has definatly gotten worse. Hopfully we all can come togather in a joint effort to repair the striper fishing for all?
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See this post -the forage base needs to be addressed.
Too many predators and not enough prey.

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Old 05-07-2009, 05:56 AM
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Thept said, "I would also hate to see livelihoods taken away from commercial fishermen"

Here in NY, commercial fishermen are limited to aprox 212 stripers per year. Nobody is losing their livelihoods - although many will scream that they are.

Even if that were the case - which it isn't - "losing livelihoods" is not a valid excuse for squandering the Public's Resources for the benefit of a select few. The fact is, we live in the closest thing to a free market that exists in the world. When the market changes, we have to change. Postal Workers face losing jobs, workers in the financial sector have lost thousands of jobs, auto workers and their suppliers - we could go on.
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