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Old 10-20-2009, 08:38 AM
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for a cleaning agent, I use 1 cup of water mixed with two table spoons each of windex and simple green... in most instances it will remove even dried paint.... I mix it ahead of time and run a little through each gun at the end of a painting session, then spray plain water for a rinse...Plain white vinegar and water, and most citrus based cleaners also do a good job... if the paint is hardened and cured, denatured alcohol will remove it...

while painting ( I've posted this before) I keep a 5 gallon bucket half full of warm water near my paint station, as I change colors,When I pull the gun out of the water, the bucket is the perfect place to empty the gun... a quick rinse (simply sprayed through the gun) with clean water and I can continue... all paint jars can be tossed into the bucket as they are emptied and dealt with later, caps are tossed in the bucket as well to keep a crust from forming that can potentially clog the gun...

I have sprayed 100 plugs in one day with out having to clean the gun or un clog it using this method....

when the day is over , a quick cleaning is all that is needed using the cleaning solution...

I use Delta Ceramacote, Anita and Folk art paints, all with very little or no trouble, it takes a little time to get used to how much thinning each paint needs, and it depends more on color than brand.... only your own experience will teach you how much of each is needed.. I do keep liqutex of the shelf and use it for the Delta black, that color seems to benefit the most from the use of the product, mainly to keep the paint in suspension, as it tends to separate if only water is used...... I keep the Createx for the fine details that require only a tiny bit of paint...

I hate painting.. this process makes it all go quicker..
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:55 PM
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Thank you so much Roc and Rick. This will save me so much time and money(paint). My gun is a top/gravity feed so maybe I will just submerse the end of gun to suck in the water or just pour in. I also have a couple real cheap Badgers(got for free) that maybe I will use and spray out the cup. I like the bottom feeds better but I could not turn down the deal I got on this gun and paint, it basically cost me a couple hours work and some materials I already had left over from other jobs. I also ended up getting a vertical wheelchair lift in the deal, part of the work was removing it. I had tried offering him some a few bucks but he refused, as he put it "for all the times I got him out of jams in the past"
I was going to check the hobby shops near me, I have a good one and a decent one-one of them should have the brushes(if I ever need them).
Roc I have also noticed what you mentioned about the Createx being able to spray a tiny bit of paint. I think is due to less pigment, man the Golden acrlic sure does cover much better and seems to atomize better also. I had something else I wanted to say or ask but I forget, I started typing this in the AM but had to run out
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:14 AM
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Jersey striper, you miss understood what I meant about using a little bit of paint... the containers they come in have the squirt lid, this allows me to literally put a "little bit of paint" in the cup , rather than uncorking a 4OZ. jar of pre mix, which inevitably will end up spilled on the bench when all I want to do is fog a few eyes or apply a chin splash.... as for the metalics... I only use delta gleams... I dont like the metallic createx finishes..
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:33 PM
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I don't care a whole lot for the createx either as it does not cover real well. I will sometimes spray bomb white(base) then work from there as then coverage is much better and uses less paint. I do know about the little flip/sqirt top, it does make it easy to do a few drops-The Createx, Golden and Liquitex have the squirter also(not sure on if the others do I have not used yet). Thank you for the input on the Delta. I actually got a few bottles today. As I was digging through the stuff the guy gave me I also realized that there was more paint than I thought. There was also another large Golden and a few more small ones along with several bottles of Liquitex. That Delta is pretty nice, but as for many of the other colors I do see why the Goldens and Liquitex cost more- they are way more vibrant and has much more pigment. The store does carry way more color options of Folk, Delta and Apple. I sure I won't buy anymore Golden/Liquitex as I can get 3 or 4 bottles of Delta or FolkArt for the cost of one Golden or Liquitex. I will also still use the spray bombs here and there as I don't have to clean after and I also have a crap load of it.
These are the droppers I was talking about as many times I squirt to much paint into the cup. This way I can pull it back out and also sometimes measure what I put in
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:26 PM
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Jersey striper, you miss understood what I meant about using a little bit of paint... the containers they come in have the squirt lid, this allows me to litteraly put a "little bit of paint" in the cup , rather than uncorking a 4OZ. jar of pre mix, which inevitably will end up spilled on the bench when all I wan tot do is fog a few eyes or apply a chin splash.... as for the metalics... I only use delta gleams... I dont like the metalic createx finishes..
as for the metalics... I only use delta gleams

I was at Michaels and did not see Delta gleams. I will also check at AC Moore and see if they have it there. Is this Delta Cremacote Gleams or just Delta Gleams as I did not even see it on their website? I'm pretty good right now with metallics but may want a few different colors, Delta's color selection is just amazing. Got lucky also as the Michaels I was at had the airbrush medium on sale for 1/2 price plus I had a 40% off coupon. If you guys want some I thingk I have another coupon or 2.
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Old 10-24-2009, 05:26 PM
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Scratch the Gleams question. After doing a search I realize I was looking right at the Gleams in the store. I think I actually picked up a few and did not even realize. I had also grabbed something called shimmer or something like that, it's add to the paint to give the same or similar effect(from Delta) I had also picked up some pigment made by Jacquard called Pearl EX it's also mixed with any color paint to give a pearl and or mettalic effect. I figured I would give them a try and see how they work. I had mixed a little PearlEx w/ some paint and sprayed on a box to test-I like it very much as I can make any color I want mettalic or pearl. I think I got 4 different colors/effects. It is actually a very fine powder and sprays with no problems-well yet anyway bottle says particle size is 10 to 60 micron and you ad a very tiny amount. Just thought I would mention as some may want to try in future.

At the store I also notice a Liquitex Iridesant medium, I did not get it but maybe next time. I like to try different things
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I've mixed the pearlex with small batches of etex with good results..
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I was worried I my last post was too long.
I have several bottles of Golden Acrylics, this stuff seems thick like a glue. It is not the "Heavy" that comes in the tube. On the bigger bottles it talks about thinning with water, but then also mentions if spraying to also use some Golden Air Brush Medium. The problem is I can't find the air brush medium locally. Can I just thin with water or I can also get some Liquidtex Flo Medium(not really sure what that is for though) and also mix flo medium with water 1/20 ratio
Maybe I will just play with the paints and see how they work.
This is actually my first post here... I frequent some of the other plug building sites and recently found this one. Nice to be here.

I also use the Golden paints. Yes they are expensive, but you need to thin them a lot so it isn't as bad as it looks. They have some awesome colors. I really like the Golden medium.Best thing about it is that it has a screw top nozzle. Makes it really easy to dispense. I hate the flip top on the liquitex. I think you have to go to an art store to get it and most of the golden paints. I live near boston and there are several I go to. You may also be able to get it online. The art stores I go to also have web sites. One is Utrecht art supply and Artist Craftsman and supply. If you google them you should be able to find them. They may have a location near you too. I think Utrecht has a store in NJ at least.

Golden has some really incredible colors called interference. Sort of like some of the irredescent colors they change color. The interference gold looks spot on to the bottom of a menhaden. Makes a beautiful plug. It is the closest I have ever seen to a real fish.
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Old 12-09-2009, 08:12 PM
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I have quite a few bottles of Golden, like you said with thinning you end up with a good amount. The other plus is they have massive amounts of pigments so thinning does not effect the color much. I use some of the Pearl EX interferance pigments, I also use the iridesant medium to make any color I want pearly or mettalic like. For thinning I usually use a mix of airbrush medium and water, and most times just AB medium. Another great paint I have found is the Liquitex, I do also like many of the Delta paints and to be honest it's ample for plugs. A few of my local stores have had the Goldens on sale or clearance for around $3 a bottle. I had picked up several, problem is they carried more of the basic colors. I'm going back soon to grab what I can though.

Picture below is my paint draw, this does not include another 3 large bottles of Golden, a few more Deltas, 6 bottles of iridesant and AB mediums or the about 20 bottles of Createx. I also think there are several more bottles of Golden and Liquitex that I picked up last week not in there.-I still don't feel I have all I need though
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