Fishing "Spots" - Page 6

MasterBaiter · #76 05-29-2009, 02:00 PM

Good post...dunno how I missed this one.

chucky · #77 08-12-2009, 10:09 PM

Great post. I'm a newbe to this forum with 3 years fishing (which is nothing i know). I'm right where you describe and I feel a whole lot better after reading this. I agree that this should be a newbe first. Thank you.

Rickski · #78 08-12-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chucky

Great post. I'm a newbe to this forum with 3 years fishing (which is nothing i know). I'm right where you describe and I feel a whole lot better after reading this. I agree that this should be a newbe first. Thank you.

Chucky... First post and I like you already.

smyke · #79 08-18-2009, 05:21 PM

wow, quite a story.

This should definitely be a sticky in the newbie section.

jasonsnova · #80 08-19-2009, 08:32 AM

great post roc! i still consider myself very green, and i will say that this site has helped me alot in the last few years, and roc you yourself have given me many great tips, all on how to's NOT how where and whens which i wouldnt ask for.
i think most 98% of people on here know you have put your time in a earned the fish you get

NYsurfcaster · #81 10-24-2009, 08:56 PM

much respect man

CapnBill · #82 10-25-2009, 12:34 PM

Definitely required reading, especially for new members like myself. It sucks to be taken advantage of and led down dead ends, especially when you r just starting out. I suppose its all part of the learning curve we all endure. If a day has gone by where u have not learned something new, you have done something wrong. Every day is a challenge that should be met with enthusiasm and the spirit to improve upon yourself in any part of your life....fishing for Stripers just enhances it all, and adds to your life experience.

And to all those "old salts" who have taken advantage of the newbies to the sport, shame on you for not bringing up the next generation of stewards of the sea in the correct manner. As Roc said....earning trust is key to sharing information...and not allowing anyone into your circle will never allow for trust to happen....

DarkSkies · #83 11-11-2009, 11:25 PM

I found this post when searching for a Veteran's day thread. I wanted to comment that Roccus explained in in a way that would bring the message home to anyone who thinks the internet is for "sharing" every piece of info that you work hard to learn on your own. It should be required reading for all new members, and all new fishermen.

He does this on a non-lecturing way without coming across as condescending or elitist. It's from the point of view of a guy who has lived through the worst, and doesn't want to ruin things as they get better. Well said.

Joe Schmakapop · #84 03-30-2010, 06:27 PM

Real cool post I totally respect the hard work you and others have put into the sport. growing up as a kid i grabbed anything and everything I could read on the subject. Now since the internet has come along its helped a whole lot. Fishing reports I use as sort of a guide to areas. I'm more concerned about technique and presentation.Spots come and go.Even though Ive been a trout fisherman till now. Its all the same hard work. Luckily my first 3 trips striper fishing Ive managed to catch a good share of schoolies. I dont think anyone should expect to be handed spots out. Im all for helping someone but to an extent.

mikeyreef · #85 03-30-2010, 08:46 PM

this is the age of instant gratification. no one wants to work for it.
i am not a young man by most standards but im a kid compared to some of the old salts i have had the privilige of fishing with.
i go out 4-6 nites a week during the season and have learned the value of shut the f---- up.
roc is an inspiration because that is the true path. work and earn it
mike

greenclaw · #86 04-05-2010, 10:36 PM

Great post. I'm new to the site and just starting to catch up on my reading, but this seems like a good place to start.

I wasn't alive at the height of the pollution and overfishing, but have heard stories from the old timers. Growing up in the 80s and 90s I was lucky enough to benefit from the rebounding populations, but even luckier because I grew up around a bunch of seasoned vets (my dad and his buddies) that brought me out and showed me some of the ropes...although more often than not they would make me find the rope myself--which I respect them most for. Quite a few lessons I've had to learn the hard way, though probably not as hard as the stories I just read.

Probably the most important lesson I learned though was that the tight lipped fisherman is a stereotype for a reason, and you have to pay your dues to the fish gods before you can expect a reward. I can remember when I was still a kid seeing charter boats unloading stripers taller than I was, and wondering why no one would tell me if they got it in the river or out in the harbor...It took me a few years before I realized why.

Thanks for the good read and good advice

nickyeager123 · #87 05-11-2010, 01:43 AM

I totaly understand where you guys are coming from, and i get how upsetting spot burning can be. As someone who has fished allover the world in more than 15 countries succesfully and unsuccesfully over the last 18 years I understand the dedication it takes. I easily spend 30-40 hours a week fishing for Stripers (and i work fulltime) and some weeks are great and some weeks I hardly catch anything. I have made million mistakes in my lifetime when it comes to fishing, i have had many discouraging outings and even expensive long distance fishing trips and sometimes considered just giving up after a long stretch of unsuccesful weeks wondering what i was doing wrong and where the hell the fish were, but my persistence and patience and willingness to learn and ask experienced locals for advice has paid off in the long run. I get what you guys are saying about instant gratification with young people today who expect to catch fish succesfully right away but I do want to say one thing.

In this day and age when kids are caught up in drinking, and doing drugs and crime or even just stuck in the house playing video games all day long, i commend those that want to give a heathy outdoor activity like fishing a try. I dont want us to discourge them or turn them away, even if it means taking a couple noobs out a year in my area and showing them the ropes and maybe even showing them a fishing spot or two. I would be selective who i did it with but it is a risk im willing to take if it means one more person doing something a little more constructive with there time then self destruction. I know if i wasnt fishing as much as I do I would be out blowing all my money on drugs and alcohol and cheap women like I used to. So lets be careful not to discourage the next noob on this site asking for a fishing spot and link them to this great thread instead!

JOE96924 · #88 05-16-2010, 01:36 AM

EXCELLENT POST! I'M NEW TO STRIPER FISHING, I'VE BEEN TAKING MY SONS OUT. SKUNKED SO FAR,BUT LIKE ANY TYPE OF FISHING, THERE IS A LEARNING PROCESS. WE'LL GET IT. ALREADY SCOPED SOME GOOD,DESOLATE SPOTS ON SHORE. NO LUCK (OR SKILL) YET,BUT WE KNOW AS WELL AS ANYONE THAT PERSISTENCE WILL EVENTUALLY PAY OFF. I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF GOOD TECHNICAL TIPS JUST FROM READING THE OLD POSTS. BOUND TO LAY INTO SOMETHING SOON. THANKS TO ALL FOR SHARING ADVICE!

Rickski · #89 05-16-2010, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JOE96924

EXCELLENT POST! I'M NEW TO STRIPER FISHING, I'VE BEEN TAKING MY SONS OUT. SKUNKED SO FAR,BUT LIKE ANY TYPE OF FISHING, THERE IS A LEARNING PROCESS. WE'LL GET IT. ALREADY SCOPED SOME GOOD,DESOLATE SPOTS ON SHORE. NO LUCK (OR SKILL) YET,BUT WE KNOW AS WELL AS ANYONE THAT PERSISTENCE WILL EVENTUALLY PAY OFF. I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF GOOD TECHNICAL TIPS JUST FROM READING THE OLD POSTS. BOUND TO LAY INTO SOMETHING SOON. THANKS TO ALL FOR SHARING ADVICE!

crazyman1 · #90 05-16-2010, 09:19 AM

I have to agree with Roccus on his post. This instant gratification without paying some sort of price is uncalled for. If you don't pay the price to learn and fish, you shouldn't be fishing. I have to say, I had someone teach me how to invest in the right gear, how to scap herring, hell he even taught me how to make my own scap net. But not once have I had the audacity to ask for hot spots to fish in. Finding those spots is by trial and error, which is called EARNED. To be as good as some of you guys that practically live the water is earned from trial and error. And unfortunately for some like Roccus, some very heavy prices were paid to learn this knowledge, such as fishing in sewer, broken arm, sunk boatS. Hell man, I am still learning about this magnificent fish and make some stupid mistakes at times, and I have been fishing for 12 years. Maybe I look at it wrong and correct me if I do, but the way I feel about it is if you don't want to work to earn your fish and learn, you shouldn't be fishing! GREAT POST ROCCUS !