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Old 07-31-2007, 10:54 PM
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Hey Guys/Gals!
I've been reading posts on this board.... I have a new boat and have done some fishing with limited sucess. I was wondering why I dont't hear more about umbrella rigs/downriggers in P.I. area north. I normally go out of Hampton, but now it looks like I'll launch out of Rye.

We slammed the fish a few weeks ago off Fishers island in Conn using umbrella rigs. The last time I fished my home waters of NH, I went out of hampton and was attacked by the dogs... That's why I am wondering if trolling with umbrella rigs will work. I have a rig with a bunch of small plastic pogies for attractors. Am I going to waste my time? I also have some Santini tubes. Which is better?
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Old 07-31-2007, 11:20 PM
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:13 AM
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Welcome to the site... there's so much info here from so many great guys... Anything you're looking for you can find and if you can't... and even if you can post questions we are all still learning.


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Old 08-01-2007, 04:38 PM
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I haven't used umbrella's in many years, to many tangles, and shorts for the effort. Use the tubes, I've caught many large Bass up to and including high 40's on Tubes. Also check out the thread, "the hows and whats of trolling"
over at the Striper forum. Lot's of info to absorb in that one. A consolidated 100 years of experiance shared by several guy's who know what they are doing.
Also check out the Gatherings forum, we are stopping at Popham Beach in Maine next, the weekend of the 18th, and 19th of August. Eat some great food, pick some brains for knowledge and maybe catch a few fish in a place you may not have been before.
If you are going, make sure to Email me at, [email protected] ,to get on the list for details and directions, soon to come early next week.
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:44 PM
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Old 08-02-2007, 01:39 PM
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Bubba, There's nothing wrong with using umbrella's. Some folks
don't take the time to re-rig the store bought ones with shorter
leaders to avoid tangles. They work!

With pogies/manhaden becoming prevelant that pattern will work.
I had a herring pattern up until a few weeks back that got hung up.
It was always the best trolling setup I had that would always get
fish.

I've caught all different size stripers on it...No cows but definitely
some nice healthy fish. The santini tubes of whatever variety work
well but as always hitting the right tides/time of day is the key.

The last week or so has slowed with the full moon and the larger
slack tides. Not as much moving water throughout the tide cycle.

If you're out off the beach front in any type of depth (30+ feet)
you'll find dogs. Its been as bad as ever this year. Try shallows or
less than 30 feet. Use the umbrellas and you'll hook up. If you
fishing during peak sunshine...good luck finding fish!

Try the pre-dawn hours now cause the tides are working better
for the AM. After this coming weekend, the tides begin to shift toward
a better setup. Then make plans!

Last Tuesday I fished the incoming between 7PM-11PM...Caught a few
nice fish...Then it died for about 3 hours Boooring!

We were fishing an all nighter. It heated back up at about 3:30-4:00.
We were having dbls and triples. Some healthy fish in the mix too.

I guess, you can't have perfect conditions all the time but you have
to be there when the perfect conditions present themselves. I'm still
trying very hard to find good spots on the incoming tide. Catching
one or two is Ok but I'm looking for more. Putting the time in is what
it is all about. During the last few days I've only had about 6 hrs of sleep.

I plan on resting up in preparation for the next set of tides that will
give me the kind of results I seek.

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Old 08-02-2007, 02:13 PM
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Bubba9ner,

The rig was real popular in the late 70's at PI, when the taking of school and medium bass was banned it fell out of favor...catching 3 or 4 boxes of small to meduim fish in a few hours was no great feat...

It never regained popularity here due to its destructive and unsportman like nature... it just plain kills too many fish and realy isnt all that sporting, but it is a fish finder extrodiaire! And most have realized that there are eaiser, better ways to catch fish...

If your going to use one, you want one that is sporting tubes, these tubes imitate sand eels, right now, until the shad and herring drop from up river, sand eels are the main bulk forage, and there are lots of them...

These larger tides are excellent for fishing, but, you must know the patterens of the fish and move up and down the beach or river with them, otherwise, you spend alot of wasted time waithing for them to come bye.

Try tolling that rig tight to the North jetty on the ocean side at day break... and hang on!
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:14 PM
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Thanks for all the info.... I am going out over the weekend and will try some tubes, rigs and other stuff. I often wonder if using a large dodger with a sewn mack or herring would work? It works well when used in fresh water when used with baitfish that sweetwater fish target.

I have a question about the weather. I watch it fanatically It looks like Friday will be a little blown up... I only have a 18.5' sea hunt w/ a 115 yami, so I got to be careful when I go out. I am wondering how trustworthy it is (NOAA coastal)? For the most part, I have been lucky, but I want know what the salts think?
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:24 PM
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This is the final weekend of Yankee home coming, lots of boats....

sewn bait is fine, but alot of extra work, dont forget the tried and true tube and worm... jigs bounced on wire work well when worked WITH the tide, after dark switch to large swimming plugs. work the edges of the bars starting on the south side.....

NOAA, can be a little scary... but you must heed their forecast and make your own judgement... I've fished that place since 86 in an 18' cenrter console, before that, I fished a 16' Amesbury skiff, the first boat was a 14; plywood home made craft.... be carefull, use common sense and if ypou dont feel comfortable doing somethong... dont do it!

Something for you to chew on.... this time of year there is not alot of fresh water coming down the river, the salt line reaches far up river.... thoink about it.
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